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Hi All,

Subject: Posts

We've had 174 posts in the last 22 days (since the beginning of the year) or 7.91 posts per day. It's been a pretty busy month so far and is headed for 245 posts this month.

Pretty good for a formerly near defunct forum!

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This is a test.  First time on forum.

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We apologize for our "test" posts, we intended them to be in
another separate thread, we're looking in to the mix up.

I would also like to welcome a new member to the Chris Craft
Constellation forum, NautiKall.

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Ann and I live in St. Louis and have been "big boating" since '92.  We've been North of St. Paul, Mn and back on the Mississippi Rv. (27 locks) and completed the Great Loop in 2002 (6,220 miles) in ten months on a 1970 Pacemaker 43 Alglass. We lost that boat to a storm in 2006 and have been enjoyjng our '85 Connie 460 since 2007.  We spend three or four days a week on her, locally, when the weather is nice and about six weeks every summer on the great Lakes. We travel up the Illinois River to Chicago and away we go.  I've made some modifications to allow passing below 17' clearence. What a great boat! We see several other 460's, 500's and a 501 along the way.
Starting back in 2007, I have read all of the Murry Chris Craft posts, but have just now figured out how to get on line.  Susan and Brian at BoatUS spent parts of three days solving problems with the website.   Thank you Susan.  I have enjoyed the banter and appreciate all of the info.  Thank you Pete and others.  I may chime in from time to time if I think I have something to offer.

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Welcome aboard Bob,
I was sure the site had been hacked. The Great Lakes are just that,
great. I have Been boating on Lake Michigan for over 25 years, mostly
out of Burnham harbor with a 4 year stint out of New Buffalo.   
I am salted now, living aboard in Clearwater on our way to Fort Myers
next week. I believe I will lower my arch and Bimini so we can get
under all the bridges (8) without any delay. I think I'll be around
17'6". While all the bridges are over
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Thanks for the greeting, Pat.
 I purchased my Chris from Anchorage Yacht Brocker in Holland, Mi.  While still there I had the radar arch permanently removed, installed a 12' x 12' bimini top and all new electronics.  We have a Garmin 4212 down and a 4208 on top with radar on the eyebrow.
When I pull a couple of pins, the top lays down for a clearance of 16' 11" at the top of the fly bridge windshield.  You need to be under 17' to go thru downtown Chicago, although we usually experience a few inches more clearance than advertised.  When we take the Cal-Sag route to Lake Michigan you need to get under 19'-3".
We used to stay at Burham Harbor as a transient both coming and going, which was very expensive for a few days, but recently have stayed at the casino marina at Hammond, Ind. Much cheaper first night and the second or third nights are free!  Diesel fuel is as cheap as we can find along the way with an additional discount of 10 cents per gallon discount for a fill-up of a least 200 gals. 
We enjoyed our journey around Florida, despite the salt water, but really enjoyed Chesapeake Bay and the rest of the trip thru Trent-Severn, Georgean Bay, North Channel, etc. Would like to do it again.  Fuel in 01-02 averaged less than $2.00/gal.  That won't happen again.
Our 460 was surveyed last June as "Bristol".  It is like new, with imbelishments.  The only issue that I wish I could improve is the exhaust noise from the in-line 671's.  Has any body done any work on the muffler system? 

Bob K.



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Yes Bob, Hammond is a bargain, a casino and if you catch it at the
right time there is a pierogi festival in Whiting. Burnham is very
pricey, hence we stayed in New Buffalo for the last few years.
I don't know about muffler modifications, quietest spot on the 6v92's is
around 1900. Don't know why and I don't think I'll get there too often
anymore after the gulf crossing.

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Ps, I also wear noise cancellation headphones underway. I know I
shouldn't, but my hearing has suffered after years of loud music and
construction noise.

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Interesting.  As an Engineering Manager, long since retired, I managed construction for the big beer company in St.Louis and elsewhere around the country.  Bottle lines, can lines, construction noise with a little sport shooting mixed in has damaged my hearing.  Our old Pacemaker had naturally asperated 671's (300 hp) ea. and we could listen to the radio on the fly bridge while we traveled.  Not possible with the 671 TI's (450 hp} in theConnie 460.

We got 1.1 statute mpg with the 671 naturals on long trips in the Pacemaker 43 Alglas and now get .99 statute mpg on long trips with the 671 TI's in our Connie 460.  Not complaining, except for the noise.  I wonder if the guts of the mufflers are gone (?).

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Welcome aboard Bob. I'm pretty new here and also a 460
owner.

We have the same engine set up and I don't seem to have
the same noise issue. On the trip home normal
conversation was not an issue at all on the FB. We never
ran over 1500 RPM's though so that may make a
difference. I too have hearing issues after 30 years in the
fire service but I do love the rumble when those 671's fire
up. We have large canister mufflers just off the turbos, do
you have the same?

I'm glad to see you get the needed clearance with your top
down. One of my goals for this spring is to take the canvas
off and lay the arch down to get a good measurement. I'm
21.5 to the top of the radar on the arch so I assumed I'd
be able to clear 17 with the arch down.

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Thanks Kevin,
My exhaust is pretty direct off of the turbo's.  Water is introduced after the turbo's and the piping heads aft thru the bulkhead with a large diameter muffler under the sink in the lav on the port side and behind the paneling in the office/mid cabin on the stbd side.  The piping then runs aft to the transom.  The only evident muffling is to be done by the large diameter cast iron mufflers after the engine room bulkhead.
I am interested in knowing more about the canisters immediately after the turbo's.

Regarding the radar arch:  Ours supported a 1985 Furuno open array sender/receiver which was to be replaced with new technology.  I looked into cutting and hinging the arch but decided it would be to heavy and cumbersome to handle.  The space available and logistics would not allow my wife and I to make the change on the fly without risk, so I decided to eliminate it.  Also the boat had no bimini top.  That is a must for the summer in St. Louis.  By removing the arch, it allowed a beautiful 12' x 12' top capable of being folded back like a convertable top to be installed.  We spend most of our time up top.  To each his own.  Back in engineering school we were taught that when there is a problem with a design, consider removing something rather than adding something.

I also removed the side panels on the side of the upper salon.  The port side panel was water logged and was leaking a brown stain.  When removed it weighed 90 pounds.  We now have a full 360 view from inside the upper salon, unloaded about 150 pounds and the boat has a more open and clean newer look.  I get a lot of compliments on the change.  How do you plan to handle a temporary arch removal and reinstall?

Bob K.


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Bob,

It does sound like we have a bit of difference in our
exhaust. I'll be on the boat this weekend and get a picture
of our setup. It may look a bit odd with the turbos off but
you'll get the idea. I'll see if they have a number on them.
This is assuming I can figure out how to post a picture!

I am also trying to find a source for the "riser" that goes
from the exhaust manifold to the turbos. They look pretty
good but thought I may replace them while I have the
turbos off for good measure. Since they are dry I don't
think they are as prone to failure as the system on the
500's. Everyone I have talked to thinks they may be a
cu$tom item so it may not get done this time.

As far as the arch. We have a hinged arch with a switch on
the FB helm for up/down. We also have a full eisenglass
enclosure which is tied into the arch so I have not been
able to test the lowering mechanism yet...not sure if it even
works. I assume the hinge was factory but not sure on that
one.

We also spend 99% of our time on the FB unless it is
raining so hard I need the wipers. Being in Cincinnati we
have the same weather a day after you so I understand
the need for shade   

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Thanks.   I hope you have better luck than Pat regarding the pictures.  It took me six years with many failed attempts to just get on line.  The BoatUS experts helped me on and off for three days!  So far this has been fun.  I can't wait to attempt pictures.

I was a freshman at U.C. with Oscar Robertson.  I have helped him with his homework.  After my freshman year I lived at the II K A house on Brookline Avenue.  Long time ago.

Bob K.


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Kevin,

Another thought.  If you have a covered slip use a length of 2 x 2 or 2 x 4 and a level to put a mark from a suspect height item such as the top of windshield, etc. on a dock column.   Then measure from the mark on the column down to the water.

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I am considering taking off the side panels also. I have a brown ooze
coming out after rain also. I tried caulking the top edge but I believe
the window in it leaks. They totally are decorative.

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Pat,

Agree.  Nothing but dead weight that covers part of the exterior walkway just aft of the side doors, and covers about 1/2 of the upper salon forward side window.  The boat looks newer and cleaner in appearance.  The view from inside is really good.  More vision when docking.  Easier to clean the windows, etc.

My yard did an excellent job.  After removing the side panels you are left with a vertical strip of hardwood on the side in front of the salon window just aft of the radius where the angled window wall meets the side panel.  My yard removed that vertical wood strip, did a little gel coat work and it is not detectable.  They did a perfect color match of the Chris Craft off-white (sometimes called Hatteras off-white).

I placed the Chris Craft crests on the side wall just aft of the side doors and the Chris Craft cursive name on the side panels below the upper salon windows.

Bob K.




Edited by NautiKall on January 23 2014 at 21:55


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Hi Pat,
I'm having a tough time figuring out what it is you've done
with your 460. When you discuss "side panels in the upper
salon", are saying you actually had the fiberglass
removed? Similar to the older flush deck Commanders?

I know some folks remove the upper panels on the fly
bridge but I don't think you're talking about those.

I would love to see a picture of this modification but also
know the frustration of posting pictures (much less having
to send them to someone to post them).

Emory

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Guys,
The big cannisters that hang off your turbos are the risers. They look something like an aqua-lift muffler and mix raw water with the exhaust before it exits through the exhaust pipes and muffler.

Chris Craft spec'd them to be cupro-nickel but the manufacturer wasn't happy with that choice. He is still in business (I think) and when I contacted him to make replacements he recommended stainless. I had a new pair made several years ago when one of the old ones failed. I believe he was in Farmingdale, NY (Long Is.) . He still had the patterns and was easy to work with. If you need more info, I would be happy to see what I can find..
John

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Emory,

I didn't remove any basic boat  side panels.  I removed the "ears" or slanted Chris Craft icon "wings".  I don't know how to send a pix on the forum but I can e-mail a pix to you or whoever else would like to see. I don't know how to reduce the size of the picture.  It's 600+ kb's Perhaps someone can put it on the forum.  Please send me your e-mail address on the site or to :

     kallemeiers@aol.com

Bob K.


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Sorry Bob.   I used to be able to post pictures fairly easy on
here, but not any more.


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Emory,

Did you get my pix by e-mail?   What do you think?

Bob K.


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Bob - resized the photo and it still didn't take. The heck with
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Hi Emory,

Subject: Testing Picture UpLoad



Just double checked the picture upload. The upload is a litle slow but other than that it seems to work fine.

There are a couple possibilities. First, perhaps your computer isn't running a standard Windows. Second, did you click the icon furthest to the right. Next, did you get the small browser window requesting that you browse for your file. Did you then click on the two "Be Patient" messages.

I think we'll have to get on the telephone and I'll walk you through the process. It isn't the fastest or simplest procedure in the world but it works if you follow the instructions exactly.

Pete37

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Hi Pat and Nauticall,

Yes the slanted panels are strictly cosmetic. Removing them may eliminate some of the ooze but it sounds like the aluminum window frames have corroded out at the bottom. Nearly all Connies have this problem. It's most pronounced on the starboard side because the Connie lists slightly to port. It's also most prevalent on Connies that have operated for most of their life in salt water

In order to understand what's going on you'll need a copy of the window frame diagram. I can send you copies by mail or email.

The picture below shows the side of my Connie:



Is the brown ooze coming out between A and B or between B and C? If you have a 460 I'll get a picture of a 460. The brown ooze is probably dry rot and will continue to get worse until you eliminate the leak in the window frame.

Pete37

PS: To any of you guys who have removed or are contemplating removing your radar arch. Hang on to them, they are worth about $15K.

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Bob how did you address holding the doors in the open position?

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Pete my ooze comes out at A. My original arch was replaced with a
tube SS which unfortunately is about 2' too high.

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Pete - the answer is yes, yes, and yes. I'll try another test
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I have absolutely no corrosion on my side aluminum window frames.  In fact the area behind the cosmetic slanted panel was less sun affected and looked newer than the overall exposed areas.  I do have a fresh water boat.

The NautiKall used to be known as the Safari and would spend summers on a mooring ball in Chicago and winters in a heated warehouse in Holland Michigan.  For some reason the integrity of the fiberglass enclosed cosmetic panel was compromised on the port side and it became water logged and oozed at "A".

It was a lot cheaper to remove the panels and clean up the boats appearance than to try a repair.  I like the finished look.  Pete, I will forward you a copy of my boat photo.  You can judge the look of no panels, no radar arch and the large bimini.  If you can put it on the forum, please do.  I can't figure out how to do it.  The picture is 600+mbs.

My open door keepers are chrome plated spring loaded catches used by Meradian boats to hold their side doors open on their 45 footers.  The keepers are designed to be installed on the cieling above the walkway.

Where is the market for 30 year old Chris Craft radar arches?

Bob K.


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Pete,

I sent you the picture of NautiKall for all to see if you can do it.  Also notice the exhaust turn-outs under my swim platform.  Exhaust discharges into the curl of the stern wave for a zero soot situation on the transom.  The turn-out is about 70 deg. and is "baloney cut" to be just inside of the slip stream.

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Hi Bob,

Subject: Picture of Nautikall

The picture was taken on a rather dark and gloomy day. This was the best I could do to brighten it up a bit. I could make it sharper but then it would exceed the forum's 100kB limit. Or I could zoom in on a specfic area and still stay under 100kB. But the picture as it stands shows most of the details you have been talking about.




She looks pretty good but from the standpoint of appearance the fenders on the bowsprit and the boarding ladder detract from her beauty. I have the same problem on my boat. I assume the bike is temporary.


Pete37





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Posted: January 24 2014 at 15:28 | IP Logged Quote Pete37

Hi Bob,

Subject: Exhaust Deflector

Here is a picture of the exhaust deflector you were talking about:




The picture doesn't really have enough resolution to do it justice.

Pete37

Edited by Pete37 on January 24 2014 at 16:27


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Posted: January 24 2014 at 15:44 | IP Logged Quote Pete37

Hi Bob,

Subject: Bimini Top

Here is a picture of your bimini top; nice job!



I guess that's about enough for now. But it does show how a couple of pictures can describe something better than thousands of words.

Pete37

Edited by Pete37 on January 24 2014 at 15:57


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Posted: January 24 2014 at 17:47 | IP Logged Quote NautiKall

Thanks Pete.    Good job.  How did you downsize the picture from 460 mbs?  I was able to get to browse, select the photo but it wouldn't download because the pix exceeded a size limit.

We have two of what we call "dumpster bikes" on the bow deck.  We use them when we travel to sight-see, grocery shop, survey restaurants and hardware stores, exercise, etc.  After a couple of years, when they are looking ratty, we throw them in the dumpster, go to K-Mart or Target in September when they are on sale for usually $59.95 ea. and replace them.  We never have to worry about someone stealing them. They live on the bow deck along with dock lines and our electric bar-b-q pit in deck boxes.

We have a simple boarding ladder on the starboard side.  What you are looking at on the port side is a colapsable boarding stairs.  Hardly ever use it, only when we are entertaining old folks that need steps and a handrail.  As we all know, when the docks are low the back door is sometimes the most convenient exit.

I have never had a full enclosure for the flybridge.  I don't like the added wind sale effect that could compromise docking in high winds.  Been there, done that.  If the weather is bad we pilot from the lower helm.  I have a storm cover for the upper helm station that is easy and quick to install.

Thanks again Pete.
Bob K.


Edited by NautiKall on January 24 2014 at 19:13


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Posted: January 24 2014 at 18:09 | IP Logged Quote NautiKall

I think I had better "cool it" for a while before you guys get tired of my stuff.  I guess I am acting like a new forum contributor, but I had another thought for Pete.

I had my port upper side window panes out two years ago when I replaced the old G.E. fridge with a new lighter weight, higher efficiency refrigerator/freezer.  At that time I cleaned the glass pane tracks, lubricated with a little silicone spray and reinstalled the glass.  The tracks were in like-new condition.

Had to remove the handrail for the stairs between upper and lower salons and had about 5/8" clearance through that spot.  In the spring the river rises at our home port 10 to 15 feet, or more.  When the water level was at the exactly right  level I backed the boat into the boat lift well and four of us slipped the fridges out and back in the window while standing at ground level on the outside.  Got rid of the old high amp fridge which was always a worry when we were traveling.

The new fridge is much easier on the 2500 watt inverter and my bank of Trojan batteries.  We can anchor out for two days only using the generator for cooking.  Occasional genny time and my two 60 amp alternators recharge when we are underway

Bob K.


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Posted: January 24 2014 at 18:32 | IP Logged Quote eshover

Keep on posting Nautikall.
I installed my fridge via the aft windows, but I have had my
side windows out. The actual tracks on my windows are
plastic and can be replaced (if you can find them). I like what
you've done to your 460. Looks nice. I also "turned out" my
exhaust outlets with 45 degree rubber exhaust elbows. I
installed heavy square gauge gauge stainless steel critter
preventers. (had an infestation of a muskrat family that
wreaked havoc on my exhaust system a couple years ago).

Emory

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Posted: January 24 2014 at 19:40 | IP Logged Quote NautiKall

Thanks Emory.  I think the turn-outs have an effect to reduce exhaust soot.  However, I did another thing that I think is a contributor to "no-soot" operation.

My previous boat had 671 "naturals" for 300 HP each.  The 460 has 671 TI's for 450 HP each, at wide open throttle.  Who runs at wide open throttle?.  To compete in the horsepower race Detroit added turbo's and higher fuel flow injectors.  At lower speeds the high flow injectors are not as fuel efficient and unburned fuel can be discharged into the exhaust system causing soot.

An old boater friend of mine who is a retired Detroit Diesel mechanic looked over my engines when I bought the boat and suggested replacing the N-95 injectors with N-90's.  We did and the boat runs great.  Probably reduced the HP to 430 +or- at wide open throttle.  I notice no difference in operation.  The engines start immediately when bumped and they easily go to 2600 rpm where they are limited.  No soot.

I hate to bring this up because from reading past posts I know you guys have spent several years talking about this topic with some very definite opinions.  Another opinion for what it's worth.

Bob K.


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Posted: January 24 2014 at 20:36 | IP Logged Quote eshover

Bob, you opinion is a valuable as anyone's.    You basically
"de-tuned" your Detroit Diesels. I'll speak to the 692's.
You'll notice that most of the ads for these boats reflect 550
h.p. Mine was. But I discovered later that Covington
Detroit offered these engines with the 550 hp and a 500
(advertised) hp version. The 500 hp version was de-tuned
with smaller injectors. The lower horsepower had a
negligible effect but did produce a little better fuel burn rate
(according to my discussions with Covington some years
ago). The head service tech said that they felt it would, or
could, extend the engine life. I doubt this is the case. Most
of the 692's burn up long before the actually wear out!
The 671 is arguably the best diesel engine DD ever built,
although the 53's (Screamin' Jimmy) were pretty durable.
The USCG used 100's of them and they were basically
abused to hell by young Coasties.

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