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Edited by Pete37 on January 30 2014 at 15:45


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Hi Pete
A while back you sent me a conny
library disk I tried to open it on several computers but must be
something wrong with it. Could I trouble you for a new copy? Thanks

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Hi Pete
I am out of town will try when return home thanks


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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">The terms UDA, LDA and MDA refer to the type of cabin; Upper Deck Area, Mid Deck Area and Lower Deck Area.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">As can be seen the installed AC is inadequate in three out of the four zones.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>The upper salon in particular has less than 2/3rds of the required cooling.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>This means that in 95F weather the AC system in the upper salon wonít even be able to get the temp down to 80F.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">This is consistent with my actual experience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>I can remember sitting in Baltimore Inner Harbor on a hot summer day with every AC in the boat going full blast and not being able to even get the temp down to 80F.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">My solution to the problem, so far, has been fans when the outside temp gets over 90F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>A pair of 12Ē fans pointed in the right direction will keep everyone in the upper salon reasonably comfortable in an 80F cabin.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">And I make sure that all windows are covered so that no sunlight gets in.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>Every square yard of sunlight is electricity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </

Edited by Pete37 on January 30 2014 at 15:49


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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Hi All,<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject: Connie AC Loads (Cont.)<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">In my last post I discussed the Connie AC system as installed and compared that to what is needed to maintain the upper salon at 72F when the outside temperature is 95F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>I then discussed possible physical upgrades that could be made to improve the AC system.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">In this post Iíll address the question ďDoes the temp get to 95F often enough to really justify upgrading the AC system?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>To do that I checked the Baltimore area weather records for June through August of 2011.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>I further selected the Annapolis weather station as my records base.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">In June the daily high temp average was about 85F with a peak of 92F on one day.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>The rest of the month it was 90F or below.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>In July, the daily high temp average was in the high 80s with one day at 95F and two at 100F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>The rest of the time it was at or below 90F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>In August, the daily high temp average was in the mid-80s with three days at 92F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The rest of the time it was at or below 90F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">So except for three days in July the temp was below 92F and most of the time it was below 90F.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>Setting the outside temp to 90F we get the following results for the required AC BTU:<O:P></O:P></SPAN>



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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Installed kBTU/hr<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Upper Salon & Pilothouse<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">28.2<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=right ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">85%<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Master Stateroom & Den<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">12.5 x 14 x7<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">LDA<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">16<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">11.5<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=right ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">139%<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">3<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Lower Salon, Galley & Dinette<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">17.5 x 15 x7<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">MDA<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">16<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">21.6<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=right ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">74%<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">4<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Forward Stateroom & Head<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">15 x 10 x 7<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">LDA<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">12<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">9.9<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=right ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">121%<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=right ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Totals<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=center ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes">71.2</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: right; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=right ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">96%<O:P></O:P></SPAN>

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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">As we can see the installed AC capacity is close enough to the required capacity that no upgrade appears necessary.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>But, of course, on that rare occasion when the temp gets above 95F you may want to reconsider that decision.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">The table above, of course, applies only to MD weather.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>If you live in Texas youíll have to recalculate the table.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>But at least this post shows you how to do the calculation.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">One final comment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>Connies are selling very poorly now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>There were 10 reasonably priced Connies in good condition on the market a month ago that had been on the market for a year and a half and none of them had sold.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>If you have a Connie with a window air conditioner or air cooled Mini-Split system your Connie probably wonít sell at all.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">† </SPAN>Youíll have to replace those systems with true marine air conditioners to make your Connie saleable.<O:P></O:P></SPAN>


<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" ="Msonormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Pete37<O:P></O:P></SPAN>



Edited by Pete37 on January 30 2014 at 15:51


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Posted: February 23 2012 at 20:59 | IP Logged Quote Pete37

Hi All,

Subject: Back to the Future

I often like to reminisce but then once and a while I like to try to look into the future.

At the moment diesel fuel prices are inching toward $5.00/gallon.  In many places they have already passed that point.  Let my prognosticate a bit; suppose prices go up by $1.00 per year for the next five years.

You may think thatís too high a rate of inflation but five years ago in 2006 I was paying $2.28 per gallon.  Now Iím paying $4-$5 per gallon; almost twice as much.  And five years before that in 2001 I was paying only slightly over $1 per gallon.  Historically the price has doubled every five years.

And suppose you, like me, are burning about 850 gallons per year in your Connie.  At present Iím running my DD 6V92s at 1400 rpm doing 10 knots and burning 14 gph. at a cost $5 per gallon or about $70 per hour.

Your fuel bills will look something like this:

Year

Gallons

$/Gallon

Cost

2012

850

$5.00

$4,250

2013

850

$6.00

$5,100

2014

850

$7.00

$5,950

2017

850

$8.00

$6,800

2018

850

$9.00

$7,650

Total

$31,750

 

Pretty scary isnít it?  Annual fuel bills of nearly $8K per year and rising.  Thatís almost enough to drive one out of boating.  Iíll propose a solution in the next post.

Pete37, 2/23/2012



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Posted: February 24 2012 at 20:43 | IP Logged Quote Pete37

Hi All,

Subject: The Connie 500T

Well, you know the answer, thereís only one way to reduce fuel consumption; go slower.  A quick look at trawlers on YachtWorld will show that 50í trawlers of approximately the same displacement as a Connie burn only about 4.4 gph at 8 knots; as opposed to the 14 gph a Connie burns at 10 knots.  This gives them a mileage of about 1.8 nmpg as opposed to a Connieís 0.7 nmpg; an improvement of 2.57:1.  That would reduce your 2018 fuel bill of $7,650 to a much more palatable $2,976.

The plan would be to remove the old 6V92s and replace them with new modern four cycle diesels of about 100 horsepower each.  At full output they would drive the Connie at 10 knots. At about half horsepower (50 hp.) they would cruise the Connie at 8 knots.  And when maximum economy is required they could be throttled down to 6 knots without any danger of damage by low load running.

The cost of the new diesels is not as high as you would think because the engines are much smaller than our old 6V92s.  A brand new 143 hp. Lehman Ford diesel costs only $18,000.  A slightly smaller 120 hp. Lehman Ford could probably be had for about $15K.  Thatís less than the cost of a major overhaul on a 6V92.  I think the entire engine swap (two engines) could be accomplished for $40K.   Thatís still a lot of cabbage but if it was done now rather than waiting until 2018 you could save about $15K in fuel costs so that the net outlay might only be $25K.  And every year after that, you would save $5K more.  So the engine swap makes economic sense.

Over the last five years Iíve spent about $20K for maintenance and repairs on the 6V92s.  The Lehmans are much simpler and reliable (average time to major overhaul in excess of 4000 hours) than the 6V92s and repairs on a Lehman are much cheaper than repairs on a 6V92 so I think the engine maintenance and repair costs could be cut in half. Between fuel savings and reduced maintenance costs I think the savings would be $6K to $12K per year.  And, of course, the engine swap would eliminate the danger of the dreaded major overhaul.

Of course the engine swap would permanently limit your Connie to a cruising speed of about 10 knots but the cost of fuel has already effectively done that so I donít think youíre losing anything.

A question that needs to be considered is ďHow much will a Connie that consumes $8000 of fuel per year going to be worth in five yearsĒ?  A Connie that consumes only $3,000 of fuel per year and is as economical as the best trawlers might be much more valuable.

At 1.8 nmpg with a fuel capacity of 600 gallons the Connie would have a range of 1080 miles.  It could make Bermuda nonstop with 350 gallons to spare.  And it could do the Chesapeake Bay to Miami route nonstop without refueling.  The fuel cost would be only about $2,400 rather than the $5,700 with our present 6V92s.

A Connie with the smaller engines I have described becomes a new type of yacht. It is transformed from a high speed motor yacht to a trawler.  Due to high fuel costs, high speed motor yachts are fast becoming extinct.  To recognize this difference I think we should call these modified yachts ďChris Craft Constellation 500TsĒ or ďConnie 500TsĒ.  The added ďTĒ signifying that they are trawlers.

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Hi All,

Subject: Diesel Fuel Price Projections

A couple posts back I projected the diesel fuel prices would double by 2016.  This was based on the past 10 years of diesel price inflation.  But extrapolating forward is always a tricky process so I decided to get a little more sophisticated in my forecasting techniques.  After a little research on the web I found the Trendlines Research ďBarrel MeterĒ which is the professionalís way of predicting diesel fuel prices. A copy of the Barrel Meter graph is shown below:

 

As you can see itís quite complicated.  I wonít try to explain it.  You can check it out at:

http://trendlines.ca/free/peakoil/BarrelMeter/BarrelMeter.ht m

Anyway, it predicts 1.10 growth factor for the next five years.  This makes the total diesel fuel price growth 1.61:1 rather than the 2.0:1 I assumed based on the last ten years of diesel prices.

So the total fuel bill of $7,650 I had forecasted for 2018 would be only $6158.  Still high but 20% less than I predicted with the simpler model.  And, as you can see, there can be BIG year to year price fluctuations.

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Hi All,

Subject:  The Day of the Gas Powered Motor Yacht is Over

I did a search on Yachtworld for 50í gas powered motor yachts.  I found only 12 and all except two were Bluewater 51 Coastal Cruisers.  And even these boats were basically houseboats weighing in at only 25,000 lbs. and costing an average of about $120K.  Basically these are houseboats which have been improperly classified as motor yachts.  They are used on the lakes and rivers of the Mideast and Midwest.  I did not find a single gasoline powered boat that could be classified as a motor yacht.  Increased fuel prices have made the gasoline powered motor yacht extinct; at least in the 50í and up sizes.  And the day when the diesel powered motoryacht becomes extinct may not be too far away.

The post I made a few days ago which said diesel fuel prices would double in five years was probably wrong.  I revised that estimate to say that the price would go up by a factor of 1.6 in five years but that still leaves the price at a about $8 per gallon by the end of 2016.  The important change, however, was not the 20% drop in price but the fact the estimate was made by an internationally recognized organization rather than just being my personal estimate.  Itís possible the price could be lower but only remotely possible. A more likely outcome would be that the prices will rise more rapidly than expected.

The lowest rpm that the 6V92s used on our Connies can safely be run without damaging them due to low load/low temperature running is 1400 rpm.  Some owners say they can be run much lower.  But my experience (2006-2011) was that even running at 1400 rpms caused my turbos to coke up with soot and they had to be overhauled. The first cost about $4k and the second (to be done this spring) will probably cost another $4K (Total $8K).  And the turbos are not the only engine components that are damaged by low speed/low load running.

I run the engines for about 60 hours per year and they burn 14 gph at 1400 rpm which gives a speed of 10 knots.  So at $5 per gallon my 2012 fuel bill will probably be about $4200.  At $8 per gallon my 2016 fuel bill will be $6,720 and by 2020 it will be over $13,000; unless, of course, the prices rise faster than predicted.

Suppose, you are an ardent boater looking for a new yacht in 2020; are you going to buy that sharp looking Connie that burns $13,000 worth of fuel per year or that dumpy looking trawler alongside it that burns only $4,000 of fuel per year?

Connies arenít going to evaporate in 2020 but fuel prices are going to make them impractical to use as cruising yachts.  The day of the diesel powered motoryacht will be over. Their only remaining use will be as houseboats.  Unfortunately, houseboat buyers arenít willing to spend very much so donít expect to get much for your Connie when you sell it.

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Hi All,

Subject:  What to Do

In the last few posts Iíve described the effects of the fuel cost increases on Connie owners.  I donít know whether Iíve convinced any of you but Iíve convinced myself.  The fuel cost inflation is real and by 2020 Iíll be paying $13K a year just for fuel.  Add in all the other costs and the total could easily exceed $25K.  And since I only run the boat 60 hours a year thatís about $420 per engine hour ($7 per minute).  So maybe itís time to just throw in the towel; as many other Connie owners have.

Iíve thought of five options:

1.    Sell the boat and get out of boating.  Thatís probably the most sensible option but I donít know what Iíd do with my time if I didnít have a boat to fiddle with.  And working on the boat keeps me active and healthy.

2.    Sell the boat and buy a 50í trawler.  I could buy a 50í Marine Trader for about what Iíd get from my Connie.  Of course brokerage fees, etc. would probably beat me down by $20K.  But I donít particularly like the Marine Trader.  It has the efficiency I need to beat the fuel costs but the quality just isnít there.

3.    Sell the boat and buy a smaller 42í Grand Banks trawler.  Great quality and efficiency but I donít really want a smaller boat and Iíd probably have to add $50K to get the Grand Banks.

4.    Keep the boat and convert it to a trawler by swapping in smaller engines.  I like this option because it gives me everything I want. Iím happy with my Connie but Iím worried about engine breakdown costs and the high cost of fuel.  Smaller new engines would give me good fuel economy and eliminate the engine breakdown problems.  But it would cost $40K which Iíd have to borrow.  In five years though, the better fuel economy and more reliable engine performance would probably pay for at least half of that.  And the resale price would also probably be higher which could pay off the remainder of the costs.

5.    Do nothing, get screwed by the higher fuel costs and eventually lose my shirt trying to sell a fuel hungry motoryacht in a trawler market.  I donít like this option but itís probably the one Iíll take because like most of you Iím a procrastinator.

 

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HI pete:

Well I would say that your correct about the cost of operations in the future.I know my 38CC won't be going on any long trips!She will remaind in the slip!Ha with twin 454's         it will like fuel at cruise for sure.Good Luck

I sure did think about repower my boat with a single diesel before I went ahaed witht he gassers.Since it already had twins and they were gas I decided not to change for a couple of reasons,my age and expected use as well as the cost.

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Hi All,

Subject: Think You've Got Problems?

Wonder how he's going to get that thing down.

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Hi All,

Subject: End of Vacation

Well, the time has come to abandon these boring sunny, 70F to 80F Florida days and get back to those exciting, 30F to 40F, rainy, snowy days in Maryland.  In a couple days we will be boarding the Great Iron Bird and flying back home.  So far as I know the boat hasnít sunk or the house burned down.  Weíve got a lot to do so I probably wonít get out many posts until weíre home next week.

The hotel web connection is rather poor and itís been interjecting all kinds of crap into my typing.  I constantly have to go back and retype stuff to get out the trash their web connection adds to my posts.  Iíve resorted to turning off the web connection, typing my posts on the laptop in a stand-alone condition, turning the web back on and uploading the post.  Itís the only way I can get a post out.  And I donít really like the tiny keyboards laptops have.

Today, it being the end of February, I wrote my initial yearly ďTo DoĒ list for the boat.  It had 41 items on it.  Pretty good for a first try.  And of those 41, ten were what I call ďBig DollarĒ jobs which added up to $6,350.  The other 31 ďSmall StuffĒ jobs probably add up to another $1K.  So Iím starting out with about $7,350 of maintenance and repair jobs plus an estimated $4,200 for fuel and about $1500 for yard charges (annual hauling).  To that most people would have to add $8K if they had a covered slip so the total would be $21,050.  Ainít Yachting wonderful!

Fortunately, I own my slip and just have to pay taxes and maintenance which adds up to about $2,500.  So my total is only about $16,000.

When I first bought my Connie back in 1994 my yearly budget was well below $10K.  Once in a while I still have good luck and have a $10K year but those occasions are becoming very rare.  Fortunately Iím fairly handy and do almost all of my own repairs.  I donít know how owners who have to use ďhired helpĒ survive.

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Pete,

Procrastination is not the 1st word that comes to mind when reading this thread. Out here on the West Coast there's a sail rag called 'Latitude 38'- editor's writing style is similar to yours though less technical.

Always enjoy reading this thread- very educational, sometimes funny (as above), sometimes lucid.

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Hi All,

Subject: Repairing Air Conditioners

Back in the early 80s before I owned a Connie I had a 42í Ocean Yacht with three Marine Air ACs.  I think they were about 12K BTU each.  One of them stopped working so I called Casey (our local AC repairman).  He came over and for about $300 he removed the unit, took it to his shop, installed a new compressor and reinstalled the AC in the boat.  That was SOP in the 80s.  Years later when I sold the boat the AC was still working fine.

Now apparently weíve got too high hat.  We have to have all-new units.  Repaired units are gauche.  At the Ft. Lauderdale Boat Show I asked Marine Air whether they still replaced compressors.  They said ďYes, of courseĒ.

And when I mentioned that my units were old 1987 units they said they were excellent choices for compressor transplants because they were made in the days of cheap copper.  In those days all the copper tubing had good, solid, thick walls.  Today, with copper at ten times the price, the walls are excruciatingly thin.  They said that today you canít buy anything as reliable as one of those old units made in the cheap copper days.

A new 12K BTU Marine Air AC costs $2,285.  A new compressor costs $645 and the four hours of shop labor to install it is $356. Thatís a total of $1001 (44% of a new unit). 

Now we all know that Marine Air is high priced and you can get a cheaper competitors knockoff unit for $1,400.  So I did some local checking here in Ft. Lauderdale with other AC repair places and found I could get a compressor transplant for $900 on any brand of AC that I had.  Drive in with it in the morning and get the repaired unit back in the afternoon.  There are only two major items with moving parts in an AC; the compressor and the fan.  For $50 more this guy will replace the fan too.

At $900 a compressor transplant is about 64% of the price of a new, cheaper, knockoff.  Is it worth that much to replace parts in an older AC?  Your old Marine Air unit is probably 25 years old but itís a top-of-the- line model with heavy walled copper tubing and youíve replaced the compressor which is the source of 90% of the failures.  The new unit is of course ďall-newĒ but itís made with very thin walled copper tubing which is more prone to fail and can cause very expensive repairs.  All ACs today, even Marine Air, are made with very thin walled copper tubing.  If the tubing fails you might as well deposit your AC in the nearest dumpster.  Itís un-repairable.

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Hi Bill & Roy,

Bill:  Sounds like youíve fallen out of love with your gas guzzler V8s.  Perhaps you should replace them with a pair of remanufactured DD 471TIs.  I had a 42í Ocean Sunliner with 4-71 TIs and they pushed her along at a respectable 20 knots.  For this summer just go slower to keep the fuel costs down and plan the engine swap as a winter project.  Or simpler yet just buy a Sunliner with the engines in her.  I had one.  Theyíre very nice boats.

Roy:  Iíve heard about ďLatitude38Ē but never read it.  Iíll have to look it up.  I assume itís on the web.  Sorry that some of what I write is technical but Iím an engineer and canít help it.  Plus this Forum was intended to be dedicated to repair and maintenance rather than just idle chitchat.  Thanks for the comments.

My wife Arlene and I are headed for the Miami Airport tomorrow and will fly home to MD on Sunday.  My next post will probably be on Monday.

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Hi Roy,

I checked out "Latitude38".  It's a nice little magazine but of course is about sailing rather than powerboats.  Perhaps some day we'll have a "Constellation 500" magazine.  With the material in the archives there should be enough stuff for at least 10 years of issues.

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Hi Pete,

In Latitude 38, check out the 'letters' section. It's the responces by the editor that rings harmonously with your writing. In '38' it's these responces that are the most popular feature. Always a great read with perspectives that, with refreshing consistancy, come out of left field...and are true too mostly or at least very persuasive!...very cool stuff.

I must commend you for staying true to your original concept for this thread. Reading your 1st post to your most recent sure shows that.  Consistancy at your technical level is a very real plus that many have benifited from. It also seems clear this venue gives you an outlet for you odvously deep inventory of experience and encycliopedic knowlege.  The things you talk about may be focused on these big boats, but this knowlege is appicable to all. What might be called the classic win-win.  If I may, I would submit the suggestion of the possibility of you writing a book on going down to the sea in boats.... and the aftermath. I would be 1st in line for your book signing.  Being a engineer with the prequsite God-forbid, methodical mind-set at Stanford has given me the ability to, at least a little, objectively appreciate what your elequence and clarity of thought. 

BTY, my wife Laurie has been commuting to Baltimore, more spacifically Annapolis for years. She's wondering if the big CC she sees in the harbor on occation or the one docked at a private residence there are possibally yours? Beyond working a week at a time there, the distraction of possibiliy hooking up to talk boats might be fun.  

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Hi Roy,

Subject: Return to MD

Arlene and I took the noon American Airlines flight out of Miami yesterday and were home by 5:00 PM in the evening.  Much faster than by car but a lot more trouble.  Miami airport is a zoo.  Avoid it if at all possible.  I collected a barrel full of mail at the post office and spent most of today sorting it out. 

You talk about a 50í Connie being a big boat.  But in Ft. Lauderdale it isnít.  On Friday a boat named Mi Sueno (My Dream in Spanish) pulled up at the dock below the hotel.  The owner also owns a winery in California by the same name. 

I tried to include the web address for "Mi Sueno" but it's too long and complicated.  So just do a search for "Mi Sueno" and you'll tind it.  There aren't many otheryachts with their own web site by that name:

We were on the 11th floor and could see everything in detail.  Actually it wasnít a boat it was a yacht.  And actually it wasnít just a yacht, it was a 190í long Trinity megayacht with a pair of 3400 hp. engines.  I feel sorry for him; man what a fuel bill.  It had seven staterooms each with a 40Ē stereo TV and all the salons had 60Ē stereo TVs.  It had a crew of 14 and I imagine each crew member had a small TV in his cabin.  They had a party on Saturday and I thought the Captain (Glynn Smith) would certainly invite me.  But I waited patiently all evening and the invitation never came.  Must have been some sort of mix-up.  Anyway, when Glynn comes to MD Iím not going to invite him to visit my Connie.  But if he brought his 14 man crew with him it would probably bankrupt me so perhaps thatís not a bad thing.

You talk about me writing a book.  Well, a book has already been written but I doubt you would want to read it.  Itís more like an encyclopedia and takes up about 2.5 gigabytes on a DVD.  Itís available free to forum members.  The biggest problem is indexing it so you can find everything.  Iíve been working on that. 

At 5,000 bytes per page thatís about 500,000 pages.  Not many text pages are 5k bytes but there are a lot of pictures.  But donít be scared.  Like an encyclopedia you donít need to read the whole thing.  You just read the topic youíre interested in.  Obviously, I didnít write 500,000 pages, I downloaded most of them from the web.  But I think in the last 2,000 days (six years) Iíve probably personally written at least 5,000 pages.  I call it the Connie Library and think of it as an ownerís instruction manual for the Connie.  How many yachts can you think of that have a 500,000 page instruction manual?

Interestingly my personal files on Connies amount to about 7 gigabytes but only about a third are for publication.

I doubt Laurie will see my Connie in Annapolis; at least until spring anyway.  Itís docked under a covered pier at Kent Narrows 25 miles from Annapolis.

Tomorrow, Iíll be down at the boat knocking off those 41 ďTo DoĒ items one at a time.  With luck Iíll finish them by the end of the year.

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Hi Pete,

Can I put in a request for the Disc you mentioned?

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Hi Pete
My disc is working ok now must have been my computer
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Hi All,

Subject: The End of Day Tripping

Arlene and I are back into the routine of living in MD again. The bills are paid and our bags unpacked.  And the weather, while not like FL turned into a pleasant 70F this afternoon.  Spring is not far away and Iím starting work on the boat. Some of the trees are even budding.  This is the 8th of March and Iíve found from years of experience that you can safely dewinterize on the Ides-of-March (the 15th) without worrying about the boat freezing up.  So next weekend Iíll start dewinterizing.

MD is talking about hitting us yachtsmen with a property tax on yachts disguised as a registration fee.  Small boats will pay $25 a year but Connie sized boats will pay $250.  Theyíre also talking about a luxury tax on yachts when you buy the boat.  They already charge a 5% sales tax.  The luxury tax will be on top of that.  That plus $5.00/gal fuel is going to make this an expensive year; yachting wise.

One of our favorite trips is to bop down to St. Michaels and dock at one of the restaurants for lunch and drinks.  The lunch and drinks cost about $60; dinner would be $100.  Plus thereís probably a $25 fee for an hours dockage.  Fuel for 13 miles is about 19 gallons @ $5.00 per gallon or $95.  We may anchor out in the harbor, hang around until about 4:00 PM and have Tea and Crumpets plus a glass of wine.  Then we pull the hook and chug back to the dock for another $95.  Total cost about $275.  A pleasant day though.

The next day, weather permitting, we may go to Rock Hall, anchor in their harbor and have lunch at one of their restaurants.  Since itís only about 8 miles away it only uses $114 worth of fuel (a saving of $66) for a total cost of only about $209. So the two day trip (usually a weekend) costs about $484.  Roughly speaking we spend about $500 per weekend.  Fortunately on the Chesapeake Bay there are dozens of nearby ports-of-call so we can do this every weekend all season without repeating

Do this 30 times a year and the bill is $15,000.  So we do it only about 10 times ($5,000).  It has occurred to me that if we stayed at St. Michaels overnight for two days the cost would only slightly more ($60 for the cost of a second lunch or dinner.  Breakfast we normally have on the boat.  So ten two day trips would only cost about $2,500.  Or we could do 20 two day trips for only $5,000.  Of course three day trips would be even more economical if you donít get bored.  The reason we donít operate this way, of course, is because we donít have off-shore power (other than the 20KW Genny)

There are several ways of getting off-shore power.  Weíve talked about them a lot.  One way is to replace your house batteries with deep discharge batteries and run your genny a couple hours at breakfast, lunch, dinner and bedtime.  A couple small inverters will get you through the genny-off periods.  Infusions of more cash will improve on the capabilities of the inverters if you are happy with this mode of operation and have the cash.

But battery based shore power is Spartan at best.  I believe the best solution is a small auxiliary generator to carry you through the periods when the main genny is off.  At the moment diesel auxiliary generators are too expensive although the ROTO genny I mentioned a short while ago is close to a viable solution.  I think the diesel auxiliary genny situation will improve with time as the demand increases.  In the meantime Iím leaning toward a small gasoline powered Honda generator mounted on the swim platform.  It isnít a neat/clean permanent solution but it will get me through a few seasons.  And if I finally get my diesel auxiliary genny, I will probably get about half its cost back when I sell it.  It will pay for itself in about nine days of away-from-the-marina operation.

The key to getting the costs of operating our Connies in hand is to break away from the day-trip mode of operation.  Two day trips cut the costs almost in half.

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Hi All,

Subject:  The Boating Economy

ďThe Boating EconomyĒ is an oxymoron; itís nearly dead.  I saw a graph on the ďBoating IndustryĒ web site

www.boatingindustry.com

It described the production of ďUnitsĒ (boats) in the US for the last five years (2007-2011) in terms of the type of propulsion they used as shown in the table below: 

Propulsion

2007

2011

Ratio

Outboard

177,000

102,000

58%

Stern drive

58,000

14,500

25%

Inboard

15,483

6,700

43%

Total

252,490

125,211

49.6%

 

 What it shows is that overall less than half as many mechanically propelled boats were made in 2011 when compared to 2007.  Pure sailboats, rowboats, kayaks, etc. with no mechanical propulsion are not shown but sailboats with engines are included.

Outboard sales held up the best but even they dropped to only 58% of their 2007 production levels.  Stern drives took the worst hit dropping to only 25% of their 2007 values.  Donít know why people seem to be falling out-of-love with stern drives.  Inboard sales dropped to 43% of their 2007 levels.

There is more data than shown in the table above.  Go to the referenced web site for more details.  Anyway, it seems that people are less inclined to buy fuel hungry powerboats.  This is probably due to fuel costs and the fact that in a recession people have less money to spend (particularly on non-essential items).

If we are lucky, this is a temporary change which will recover in about five years.  It may leave a reduction of powerboat supply plus a surplus demand for powerboats when the recession is over.  For those of us that are able to survive without having to sell our Connies this may produce higher prices when we finally do sell; we all do eventually.

If we are unlucky, this is a permanent trend which may become more severe with time even after the recession is over.  Fuel prices, which seem to be permanently on the upswing, may make yachts unaffordable except by the very rich.  If that is the case 50í Connies may go the way of the dinosaur and dodo bird and we may have a very difficult time selling our Connies even at give-away prices.

I donít know the answer to this lucky/unlucky conundrum.  If I did Iíd be on the stock market getting rich.  I enjoy using my Connie so all I can do is to keep my Connie and try to minimize my expenses while maximizing my enjoyment.  And that is what this Forum was designed to do.

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Hi All,

Subject: Fresh Water System Rebuild

Well, today I finally got started on that big ďTo DoĒ list I made up while on vacation.  I selected the ďRebuild of the fresh water pump systemĒ job.  The picture below shows the fresh water pump mounted on a new plywood base tailored to fit the starboard side of the ďUnder GalleyĒ (UG) compartment.

 

The board is sitting on one of my garage workbenches.  I made the board today and brought it home to my garage (where itís warm) to work on it.  Iíll build up the whole system as a module and when itís done Iíll take it down to the boat, install it and hook it up.  I find building the module on the garage workbench is much easier.  The UG room is very cramped and at the moment unheated.  Sorry the picture is so cluttered.  Later pictures will be clearer.

The accumulator tank is propped up on a box in approximately the position it will be in when finally installed in the boat.  Obviously, Iíve removed the pump and accumulator and brought them home.  So Iíve made quite a bit of progress for one day.

When completed the fresh water pump system will contain two pumps; the shallow well jet pump (shown) and a Jabsco Par-Max 4 which I have but havenít started installing yet.  The shallow well jet pump is AC powered and will be used at the dock or when the genny is running.  The Par-Max 4 will obviously be used when only DC is available.  The electric switching will be manual at first but I hope to eventually make it automatic.  Itís a DC diaphragm pump similar to the Shurflo Extreme Series pumps but only puts out 4 gpm.  The Shurflo which puts out 5.7 gpm would have been a better choice but I already had a Par max on hand so Iím using it. 

Why am I bothering to have two pumps?  Because DC diaphragm pumps donít have much capacity at high pressures.  The Shurflo for example will put out 5.7 gpm at zero pressure but at 40 psi it only puts out 2 gpm.  The Par Max puts out a little less but itís adequate for off-shore use.  Having two pumps and keeping their operations independent will make the plumbing somewhat more complicated but itís do-able.

Some people think the shallow well jet pumps are old, inefficient technology but actually theyíre more efficient and technologically sophisticated.  You can look up how they work on Wikopedia if youíre interested but itís rather complicated.  Theyíre usually made of cast iron because theyíre designed for use in homes.  In homes, weight and size are not a problem but reliability and capacity are important.  The shallow well jet pumps will put out 12 gpm at 40psi. and they typically last about 20 years.  At about $150 they're also relatively cheap.  Mine weighs somewhere between 20 and 30 lbs. which makes it awkward to carry around but I donít carry it around and 30 lbs. is a noise level load on a 54,000 lb. yacht. If you really want a lighter pump shallow well jet pumps are also made in aluminum but are just as big and donít work any better.

Iím hoping to have the shallow well jet pump installed and working in a week so I can fire up the boatís fresh water system.  The DC pump is less critical but I hope thatís done by the end of the month.

The shallow well jet pump was up and running in the genny room before I removed it today.  Iím moving it to the UG compartment to reduce the clutter in the genny room so that when I eventually get an aux genny there will be room for it.  Thatís a least a year away but removing the pump and putting it in the UG compartment will also reduce the genny room clutter and make it easier to work in there.  And this is also an easy job to do while the weather is still pretty cool.

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Quick update on the CC 501 for sale in Austin TX.

I had a chance to look at it week before last. Pete your research was spot on because despite the name on the transom of 'Time Well Wasted' the boarding steps and maintenance folders were still marked "Come Monday". We had to take a water shuttle to the boat as all larger boats on Lake Travis have been moved to temporary covered floating docks in the deeper parts of the lake. I was told by the broker that the boat had been moored at the end of a T pier in the open at Hurst Harbor Marina on the lake for about 2.5 years until it had to be moved to its current location due to water depth caused by the drought in Central Texas. The good news: the inside of the boat's cabin was in very good condition with the woodwork in very good condition with only moderate sun fading of the wood trim around some of the windows. The softgoods looked like they had been updated in the last few years with the carpet looking particularly new. The bad news: the exterior was subject to some pretty serious fading and chalking and the boat had obviously not been cleaned and waxed in quite some time. You could see where some minor repairs to the gel coat had been made in prior years as it was fading at a different rate than the rest of the hull. In addition to the bird droppings and cobwebs all over the exterior (please note I asked them not to clean the boat prior to my arrival as I wanted to see how it was being kept). On one side of the cabin the aluminum window frames had noticeable corrosion and bubbling of the paint on the frames. The current owner has modified the fly bridge by removing the aft railing and replacing the standard seating with extended seating running almost all the way back to the dinghy davit which required him to remove part of the half of the dinghy mounting points. The generator started and ran fine. We did not start the engines as maintenance personnel had disassembled the hydraulic steering manifold as they had recently discovered a steering problem--the replacement part is on order--as we were unsure of what else might have been disassembled we did not start the engines. During the visit I could see at least one of the A/C compressors had been replaced as well as the water pump for the freshwater system. The engines looked like they had not been well maintained and I believe many of the hoses on each were the originals from the factory. There was a good amount of oily sludge beneath each engine. Most of the fuel lines also look rather dated with pretty good oxidation. I was able to find a mechanic who was familar with the boat and he stated other than the ongoing repair to the steering he could not recall any maintenance on the boat in the last couple of years. No one could remember or had records of the last time it was hauled and the bottom cleaned and painted (I could see signficant algae growth on the bottom). For me personnally, I am not sure I even want to spend the money for a survey and engine oil analysis at this point, given the current asking price (even realizing he may come off 30% as seems to be the norm nowadays). I will continue my search.

If anyone is interested contact me as I have some close up pictures of the boat.

Tim

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Hi All,

I considering replacing my refrigerator and am trying to contact John Conley on Fantasy.  He's replaced his and I need to ask some questions. 

John if you're out there please contact me at furmancombes@comcast.net

 



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Hi Furman,

Most of the refrigerator posts were back in September of 2007.  I checked but didn't find any phone or email contacts for John.  I'll try to do a more complete scan of 2007 to see if he left his email address anywhere.

Kind of awkward when you have a problem but no one to compare notes with isn't it?

Pete37

PS:  I checked but didn't find anything for John.  However,with his address and about a dollar you can get a complete rundown on him on any one of dozens of people finder sites.  Just type in his name on a web search engine and dozens of people finder sites will pop up.  BTW, Banjoman replaced his fridge too.



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Hi Roy,

You asked about the Connie DVD a few days ago.  I'm working on the 2012 DVD but doubt I'll have it out before March.  When it's ready I'll announce it and you can certainly have a copy.  Stay tuned.

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John,

Call me at 912-484-8925

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Hi All,

I keep my Connie at what used to be a very classy marina.  You had to wait a couple years to get a slip.  Today I got the marina newsletter.  The Leasing and Sales column said there were 56 slips for sale and 45 slips for lease.  That's a total of 101 slips out of 271 or 37% of all the slips. And even the boats still in slips rarely leave them.

The place is getting to look rather seedy and the Board said that it would not be able to dredge in the near future (for several years) due to lack of income.  The place needs dredging badly. My slip in particular is only good at mid to high tide.  

And the north channel to the Bay is permanently silted in.  No indications that it will be dredged even in the next five years.

The only place that seems to be crowded is on the hard.  People seem to be taking their yachts out and leaving them (year round).

Ain't "Hope and Change" wonderful?

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Hi All,

Subject: End of Regular Posting

I've decided to stop regular posting on the forum but I'll post ocasionally as the spirit moves.  If you have a problem I'll still be watching the forum and may be able to provide an answer.

I've been working on the 2012 Connie DVD and there's about a quarter of a gigabyte of 2011 stuff to add but it's a lot of work and there hasn't been much demand for the DVD so I'm just going to discontnue it.

Hope you guys have a great summer,

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Pete/All,

Anyone have any knowledge of the mid 80's CC 55' Cockpit Motor Yachts. I saw one and it looks like a 50' Connie with a cockpit tacked on. Any idea how many were produced and the years of production? Any known issues (good or bad) with them?

Thanks,

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Hi Tim,

I did a search on Yachtworld and didn't find any 55' Connie built in the 80s.  Thta indicates that very few if any were built.  And there's nothing in any of the CC books which indicates any 55' Connies wre built.  But someone may have added a cockpit to a 50' Connie.  And there's a guy who has added a cockpit to a 46' Connie making it a 53' Connie.

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Thanks Pete. Check out the YW link:

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/Chris-craft-55-cockpit- motoryacht-2443596/Biloxi/MS/United-States

I think you are right--maybe someone modified a 50 Connie--though the VIP stateroom look like neither a 50 Connie nor a 501??

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Hi Tim,

Yeah, that's the 1985 46' Connie that was converted to a 53' by adding a cockpit.  It's documented as a 53' hull but they are advertising it as 55'.  The owner lives in Ocean Springs, MS and poured a ton of money into the conversion.  She's named "Jeanne" and was converted in about 2007.  Here is a picture of her underway in 2007.

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There's also a Uniflite (predecessor of the Connie) named Kialoa VI on the west coast that has had a cockpit added to it.

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Tim and Pete,

The 46' connie extended to 55' info stated it had 692's. I thought the 46 came with 672's.....????? 



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David/Pete,

Good point on the 672's vs. 692. The broker indicated that 5 of these cockpit 55s were made by CC. I have never heard of them nor seen anything in literature about them, but who knows... I am awaiting the Hull ID# as I think that might shed some light on whether its an extended 46.

 

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Hi Dave and Tim,

The hull number is CCSYG101485.  The owner created his own CC model type "G" and number "101".  Actually, it was probably hull #113 since that's the only 460 hull number I can't account for.  There is no such thing as a Detroit Diesel 672.  The 460s were built with 671s.  Somewhere in my files I have the early broker's ads on this Connie.  She's been for sale for a long time (about 5 years).  The cockpit was definitely a one-off.  If this boat has 692s the owner must have added them.  You can look this Connie up on the CG documentation site.  Search for "Jeanne".  I have the documentation number and owner's name but I don't normally publish these on this Forum for privacy reasons.

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Pete,

 

Great information. Thanks for explaining and providing the background.

 

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