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wakeme
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Posted: September 06 2006 at 12:09 | IP Logged Quote wakeme

Have a 1985 38' Corinthian, and experiencing leaks in the aft cabin (port & stbd) windows.  Has anyone undertaken this task of repairing these leaks....removing entire window and re-sealing? OR any other tricks that I may use before doing something drastic?

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted: September 06 2006 at 17:25 | IP Logged Quote Dlavington

I have a 29 ft Catalina with leaks that I suspect came from the fixed windows on the cabin front.  Rather than remove/reseal them (1986 model) I just had a pair of canvas snap-on covers made and installed.  I no longer have leaks (that I know of). 
     Don't know if that would work on sliding windows, but if these are the fixed aft windows on the master stateroom you might consider it.  Good luck.  Dave


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Posted: September 28 2006 at 22:01 | IP Logged Quote rivermanil

I'd suggest one of the adhesive drip edges over the entire aft area
cockpit over the door and window, all the rain runs down that back.
The drip edge takes it off to both sides. No leaks on my 1980. Like
you heard earlier keep the water away is part of the battle. This fix
will not stop existing leaks tho.

For any other Corinthian owners, I could use a manual - anyone have
a copy to offer?

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wakeme
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Posted: October 02 2006 at 08:27 | IP Logged Quote wakeme

Thanks for the replies...Like the idea of a "drip gutter", can only help. I have taken the STB window out, and recaulked and reset which has seemed to solve the problem. Had a dry weekend during a storm!

I too would love to get my hands on a manual!

 

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Dlavington
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Posted: October 05 2006 at 11:15 | IP Logged Quote Dlavington

When I bought my 1985/86 29 ft Catalina last year it came with an owner's manual, which I'd be glad to share with anyone; it isn't much help though.

the manual is 48 pages, 8.5x11, with a red cover.  It is generic, for all Chris Crafts, and has no specific information in it about any model....more like a textbook, or an introduction to powerboating.
the cover says it was "reprinted 7/82".  Here's a summary of the table of contents:

Introduction to your boat and boating

General familiarization

Maintenance

Useful information and record.

So, if you'd like, I'll mail it to you, relying on you to mail it back after you've made a copy.  I'll be glad to do the same for anyone else.

Dave Levington


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Posted: November 26 2006 at 20:07 | IP Logged Quote Pete37

To Wakeme:

Hi Bob,

Window leaks are generic to most boats because the construction of sliding windows is the same in nearly all boats.  Basically, at the bottom of the window opening, an open box, called a windowbox, is constructed out of wood.  This is true even in fiberglass boats. 

The windowbox is on the inside of window opening and runs the length of the window.  It's top is even with the bottom of the window opening.  The top is open and the bottom of the window glass rests in an aluminum track on the botom of the box running fore and aft.  A second box at the top of the window has a second aluminum track which restrains the top of the window.  Usually two window panes, each with its own set of tracks, are incorporated in each box with one window sliding forward and the other aft.

In theory, rain hits the outside of window and runs down the window into the windowbox.  The windowbox is watertight so the water in the box is contained until the box fills and the water spills over the top of the box.  In order to prevent the windowbox from filling one or two holes are drilled in the outboard side of the box to allow the water to drain to the outside of the boat.

But after a few years debris accumulates in the box and plugs the holes.  At that point the box fills and you have what is known as a window leak.  The solution is to just hose out the debris in the box thereby opening the drain holes again.

This miraculously simple way to solve the problem works most of the time.  But many boat owners don't understand how a windowbox works and proceed to seal the window glass against the windowbox with various sealing compounds.  This eliminates the sliding feature of the window and also usually plugs the windowbox drain holes which leads to future leaks and rot.

In some cases, the windowboxes themselves rot and/or become leaky.  In these cases, the window panes must be carefully removed and the windowbox must be rebuilt or resealed.

But windowboxes remain leak free for a long time if their drain holes are kept free of debris.  Twenty years is not uncommon and most window leak problems are caused by plugged drain holes.  I've had boats with windowboxes for over thirty years and haven't had any window leak problems as long as I kept the drain holes open.

Incidentally, I too have one of those red Chris Craft Owner Manuals.  But you shouldn't expect much from it.  It is essentially useless.

Pete37



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Posted: February 24 2007 at 14:31 | IP Logged Quote leagle

I'm new to the forum.  A few months back a couple of you were looking for Corinthian manuals.  Still looking?  I have both the original operator manual, and the engine manual - the blue Chris Craft ones that came with the boat - for my '78 Corinthian.  If you still need them, I'd be happy to scan them to PDF, and email them.  I also have the boat's original blue prints.  A lot tougher to scan, but if someone needed a specific element of the boat design, I could try.   

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Posted: February 24 2007 at 19:04 | IP Logged Quote Dlavington

Mike, that's a generous offer.  It won't help me, with my 1985/86 Catalina, but it raises a subject where I could use help...does ANYONE have a wiring diagram for a 85 or 86 Catalina Flybridge, twin screw express?

Dave at High Hopes


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I had found out that my "leaking" problems were more extensive than originally thought. The winter lay-up has been dedicated so far to solving these problems. I have removed the large aft window and re-bedded and sealed along with the aft starboard sliding window. Problem resolved here.  I also had leaks in the forward cabin, on both sides of the V-berth. Removed both portal windows, new gaskets, seals and rings (the windows were in excellent shape). Had to contract with the local boat builder to re-seal and tighten the deck-to-hull joint which was in bad shape. Also re-bed (8) stantions on the fore-deck. Will not know if this is resolved till "underway" in the spring. Appears to be dryer than Phoenix in the summer now!

My next projects are now delayed with a Broken Shoulder while slipping on the ice at home!

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Window channels...

http://www.defender.com/productsearchresult.jsp

I have several to tear into soon...



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Mike, that's a generous offer.  It won't help me, with my 1985/86 Catalina, but it raises a subject where I could use help...does ANYONE have a wiring diagram for a 85 or 86 Catalina Flybridge, twin screw express?

Dave at High Hopes


Dave,

I have many of the wiring diagrams from Bellingham for my 1986 362.  Got the set from SEA CURE Technology.  They are Uniflite specialists but also have a lot of Chris Craft data and parts.  They built a bow pulpit for me "...probably from the mold for the original   ."  http://www.web4wise.com/seacure/ gets you to their website and parts catalog.  There is a link to an email for information.




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Mike, that's a generous offer.  It won't help me, with my 1985/86 Catalina, but it raises a subject where I could use help...does ANYONE have a wiring diagram for a 85 or 86 Catalina Flybridge, twin screw express?

Dave at High Hopes


Dave,

I have many of the wiring diagrams from Bellingham for my 1986 362.  Got the set from SEA CURE Technology.  They are Uniflite specialists but also have a lot of Chris Craft data and parts.  They built a bow pulpit for me "...probably from the mold for the original   ."  http://www.web4wise.com/seacure/ gets you to their website and parts catalog.  There is a link to an email for information.




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Consider yourself lucky. This is a 2005 Roamer 40 that the factory refused to repair under warranty. They say it only had a 1 year warranty. Over $40,000 to repair the damage.

I have many more pictures if anyone's interested.

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Steve and Pat, thanks!  I've sent them an email, we'll see what happens.  Dave at HighHopes

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